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  1. #11
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    Domyślnie Odp: kulaszne Cemetery

    Hi Bobby,

    I spent Sunday afternoon driving along the valley of the River Osława showing some churches to the elderly part of my guests.
    I asked the driver to have a short stopover at Kulaszne and stretched my legs walking in high grass and weeds covering the most part of the graveyard.

    I only had a fleeting glimpse of the area when I saw the grave of your
    (great)grandfather:



    He rests in a place apart of the main group of graves (they seem to be new) a bit down the slope going to the bottom of the valley.
    When travelling by car you drive from Sanok to Zagórz and then you head for Komańcza. Driving through the *****ge of Kulaszne you get to a serpentine road going down the valley and you can see the church from the Wikipedia link. You can park the car just a few metres from it.
    The cemetery is located near the church as the link I've given you says:




    Unfortunately, I didn't have enough time to explore the whole graveyard carefully, so I focused on the oldest gravestones sticking out the grass usually in seclusion. I found this:



    The gravestone plate reads that there rests Paraska Kuper (1877 - 1930) - maybe a member of your family as well?




    I hope to have been helpful.

    If any more help needed just post your request.

    Good luck in your search.

    Best regards:)

    vm2301

  2. #12

    Domyślnie Re: kulaszne Cemetery

    This is great, thankyou kindly vm2301.

    The first photo (and second one) is of my grandmothers brother. One thing i've noticed is that he is refered to as Jan by family members, but on his grave stone its say Iwan? Is that the same?

    Paraska could be my GGF's sister, as he was born around the same time. The inscription caught my eye, perhaps a chisel and hammer were used to get those words into the stone.

    Loved the photo of Jans gravestone with the graveyard and church in the background. Nice to know where the the church is in realation to the Cemetery.

    My greatgrand parents - Maksym & Katarzyna are also buried there somewhere. These are 2 photos i would love to have.

    Your photos are appreciated very much, thankyou for this kind gesture.

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    Domyślnie Odp: kulaszne Cemetery

    I'm going to spend in the area of the Bieszczady mountains a bit more time this summer.
    If I happen to be there again I'll try to find these two graves and take some photos of course.

    Eastern name Iwan (Ivan) is an equivalent to Polish Jan.

    Nowadays people turn back to old tradition I guess much more than they did or could in the past and celebrate Ukrainian traditions and language.

    In this cemetery and many more in this region there are graves with both Polish and Ukrainian inscriptions.
    I cannot take pride in the knowledge of history or ethnography, so forgive my cursory explanation

    But there appear those who know really a lot and can provide you with the appropriate information and links to some interesting websites...as they have done before

    I put a photo showing the location of Ivan's grave, here you have a photo of the church taken when standing above it on the road Zagórz-Komańcza:


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    Domyślnie Re: kulaszne Cemetery

    vm2301 - all the photos are good for me to view as it gives me an idea of what the area looks like. Thankyou.

    I found out that Jan was killed during operation Wisla. Where can i find database, or further information about Jans death. Would there be documentation about those killed during Wisla?

    Bobby.

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    Domyślnie Odp: kulaszne Cemetery

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wisla

    Did you read this? The story was written quite impartially, having also a lot of useful links.

    Regards
    Ostatnio edytowane przez Marcowy ; 31-07-2008 o 09:43

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    Domyślnie Odp: kulaszne Cemetery

    Hi,

    To add something to Marcowy's link:

    Try IPN (National Institute of Remembrance) - they run an English website:

    http://www.ipn.gov.pl/portal/en/

    e.g.

    http://www.ipn.gov.pl/portal.php?ser...=89&search=145

    That's what the search engine found immediately, more careful search may bring some better results, not just a story in a nutshell.

    You can contact them, they may be helpful.

    Furthermore, the National Library:

    http://www.bn.org.pl/index.php?menu=1

    or State Archive in Przemysl

    http://www.przemysl.ap.gov.pl/ev/index.html

    Finally, I know that at our forum there are people who know a lot about this operation. They are certainly able to help. If you are very eager to learn something but too impatient to wait for the answer you can also try another forum - for historians this time:

    http://www.historia.org.pl/forum/
    (find Historia Polski -> Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa)

    or

    http://historycy.org/
    (Historia POlski ->Polska Ludowa)

    At least that's what comes to my mind...

    Ostatnio edytowane przez vm2301 ; 31-07-2008 o 13:58

  7. #17

    Domyślnie Re: kulaszne Cemetery

    Thanks for the links everyone - I have just sent a email to the National Institute of Remembrance, and will followup with reading/emailing on the other links.

    Thankyou.
    Bobby.

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